Talk:Terrier
From Academic Kids
Just wondering if the Terrier breed list is incomplete, or if there are reasons why some breeds have been left out. Anyone have any objections to my adding:
- Australian Silky Terrier
- Russian Black Terrier
- English Toy Terrier
- Miniature Fox Terrier
- Toy Fox Terrier
- Tenterfield Terrier
- Rat Terrier
- American Pit Bull Terrier
- Norfolk Terrier
- Norwich Terrier
- Japanese Terrier
Hunt Terriers vs. Hunting Terriers
Was this distinction intentionally made? I can see where it would be, but wanted to clarify. Keep in mind, whoever is writing this, that some terriers 'cross over'; i.e. they are hunting terriers (which I assume applies to hunting for food or pelts, vermin routing etc.) and were used for The (Fox) Hunt. Quill 00:10, 26 Jun 2004 (UTC)
Fox Terrier
While the recent edit by an anonymous user was logical, ultimately it would confuse matters; someone would have to remember to come back here and change things back. Further, this is a breed list, not a type list. The fox terrier article discusses type; it is not restricted to the specific breeds Smooth and Wire-haired fox terriers. I think a better choice is to leave the separation, as it is in keeping with the way the breeds are listed in the rest of the project. Opinions? Quill 09:19, 15 Jul 2004 (UTC)
i reverted the edits made by Toytoy b/c the breed list shows the breed names with the wire, smooth and miniature after the main breed name. i believe that's what we've decided to use. [[User:Lachatdelarue|Lachatdelarue (talk)]] 14:00, 4 Sep 2004 (UTC)
- Yup. Refer to List of dog breeds. Elf | Talk 17:39, 7 Sep 2004 (UTC)
Multiple terrier lists
I'm still bothered by the fact that we have at least 3 complete lists of terriers (not to mention the new category:Terriers that Multmoma kindly filled in)--Terrier, Terrier Group, and FCI Terrier Group. Harking back to this ancient discussion, I'd like once again to propose having just a single list, perhaps in the Terrier article, perhaps in a table similar to this:
| Breed | AKC | CKC | FCI section | KC |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Airedale Terrier | Y | Y | 1 (USA) | Y |
| American Staffordshire Terrier | Y | Y | 3 (Canada) | n |
(note countries are invented for this example.)
I think that it gives a more complete list of terriers and a better picture of what's recognized worldwide and what isn't; I think that it'll avoid confusing people who might land on multiple of these pages and not be clear on what's going on; I think that it'll help in long-term article maintenance.
Thoughts? Elf | Talk 17:01, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- How about 1. Terrier delete terrier list from. Add sentence like 'for a list of dogs classed as terriers, refer to category:terriers' . 2. Terrier Group add the line about not all dogs in the terrer groups being terriers and not all terriers being in the terrier group, leave the rest as is AND/OR add your table (e.g. above) in here. 3. FCI Terrier Group leave as is. Quill 09:28, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- The only problem with relying on the category list is that it includes only articles that exist & not breeds that don't yet have articles. But I guess the terrier group article could just include all terrier breeds whether recognized by any KCs or not and that might suffice... Hmmm. Elf | Talk 18:21, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- uh...good point...forgot that bit...never mind.... Quill 22:02, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
