Talk:Scottish country dance
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Anyone care to investigate whether this article was ripped from http://www.localcolorart.com/search/encyclopedia/scottish_country_dance/
Alingnau: Nope, it turns out that the www.localcolorart.com article corresponds with an older version of this page. I wrote much of the material on the Wikipedia page myself (see the page history for details) and this was apparently taken up wholesale by the other site.
I agree that there may well be dancing at a ceilidh (although there doesn't have to be) but there's nothing special about it, as far as I'm concerned. Can you give an example of "ceilidh dancing" which is not Disco, Old Tyme or Scottish Country Dance? -- Derek Ross
I would consider most round the room dances to be ceilidh dances as opposed to scottish country dances, but I don't know about Old Tyme and I've virtually never seen disco at a ceilidh... but then may that's peculiar to Edinburgh student ceilidhs...
Dances I've seen at ceilidhs/on ceilidh programs:
Ceilidh: dashing white seargent, military twostep, st bernards waltz, Britannia twostep, eva threestep, strip the willow, canadian/highland barn dance, shetland/orcadian/skye strip the willow[1], circassian circle, gay gordons, highland scottishe, pride of erin waltz
Disputable ceilidh/country: flying scotsman, marmelade sandwich, dunedin festival dance, virgina reel (depends on variation)
Country: eightsome reel, bonnie anne, schehallion(sp?)
Disputable country/highland: foursome reel (plus (half) reel of tulloch), shepherd's crook, macdonald of sleat
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[1] What is the name of this dance! :)
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When I said I don't know about old time, I meant that i don't know what it is... *<:@) - with apologies that I have such specialist knowledge SCD & ceilidh is all I dance ('cetp for a year of ballet :)
Most of the dances which you put under the ceilidh heading are what I would call Old Tyme dances. However I think it's important to make the point that the sort of public dance, commonly called a ceilidh, which you have attended at the student union, is quite restricted in ceilidh terms. Most private ceilidhs are social events where the participants entertain each other with music, songs and 'party pieces' which you hardly ever get at a public ceilidh. Dancing may well be a part of that and will probably consist of the Old Tyme dances in your ceilidh list since they are very well known, but it depends on the musicians present and the knowledge and tastes of the dancers. If they know a dance and they want to dance it, they will, whether it's on the SCDA official list or not. Even Modern dancing such as disco is a possibility at a private ceilidh although it's very unlikely at a public one. -- Derek Ross
Fair enough and thank you for the clarification, I'll bear it in mind *<:@)
Highland Dancing/ Scottish Sword Dancing
Someone should mention that highland dancing (solo display dancing for men) is sometimes done in the contect of Scottish Country Dancing. At highland games they go the whole hog and do the same dance with swords on the ground (Scottish sword dancing). -- Anonymous Reader
- Highland dancing and Scottish country dancing don't really have a lot to do with each other. You can mix the two to good effect in the context of a Scottish dance display, for variety, but as SCD is mostly social (i.e., for the enjoyment of the participants in the dance) and Highland is mostly display/competitive sport (i.e., for the enjoyment of an audience or to win something) the philosophies are completely different.
- Generally, the Highland dances performed at highland games (such as the Highland Fling, sword dance, or Seann Truibhas), being solo dances, are completely different from Scottish country dances, which are invariably performed by groups of dancers; conversely, there are a few highland-style group dances which are part of the SCD repertoire (such as the Axum Reel) but none of them involve swords. There are some Scottish country dances that prescribe Highland setting steps, such as Glasgow Highlanders or Schiehallion, but they are still country dances, not Highland dances. Besides, Highland dancing is almost exclusively done to bagpipe music, SCD virtually never.
- Incidentally, Highland dancing is most often practiced today by young girls -- grown-up men dancing Highland are few and far between in comparison. -- Alingnau
Agreed. Highland Dancing is Scottish/Irish in origin whereas Contra Dancing is English/French in origin. Country Dancing fell out of favour in most parts of Europe except for Scotland during the nineteenth century and that is why it is particularly identified with Scotland in modern times. -- Derek Ross | Talk 05:14, 2004 Dec 6 (UTC)
Beginning
Do we need to distinguish SCD from Old Tyme dancing right at the beginning of the article? Would it be appropriate to move this distinction to later in the article or remove it all together? Currently the article begins "Scottish country dancing or "SCD", as distinct from Old Tyme dancing"... I'm new to this so thought I would ask rather than make a change myself... especially as I am confused as to what "Old Tyme dancing" refers to. --Clay1039 04:33, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
