Talk:Pow-wow

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Should this be a disambiguation page with the two topis as Pow-wow (gathering) and Pow-wow (folk magic), and then possibly add Pow-wow (music)?

oops, forgot to sign. Gentgeen 07:52, 4 Nov 2003 (UTC)

It depends how much there is to write about Pow-wow as a gathering. If it isn't going to be expanded beyond what it currently is, it could just stay here. If it could be a proper article, then a disambiguation would be good. Angela 07:58, Nov 4, 2003 (UTC)

well, I could expand it, but I'm a little hesitant because I only know about powwows in California, so don't feel qualified to write the whole article myself.Gentgeen 08:20, 4 Nov 2003 (UTC)

Well that would be a start. It doesn't have to perfect straight away. If you think it has potential to develop into an article, then I'd say go for it. Angela 08:40, Nov 4, 2003 (UTC)

ok, I'll put this on my to do list. Gentgeen

By all means write about pow-wows. Whether we need a separate page may ultimately depend on how much you write. If you separate the two, it will of course be needful to go back and change the pages that link here to point to the right page. (What is "pow-wow" as a music genre, anyways?) -- Smerdis of Tlön 17:35, 4 Nov 2003 (UTC)

Powwow music is the music sung at a Native American powwow. It generally consists of multiple voice and drum accompanyment, in a chanting style. It is further divided into (generally) two styles, Northern and Southern, and then each has various types of songs to use for particular dances. At every powwow I've been to the music is performed live by between 2 and 15 drums (the name of the group as well as the instrument), each with between 5 and 20 singers. Various Native American recordings, including powwow music and native flute, can be purchased from Canyon Records (http://www.canyonrecords.com/), among others. - keep forgetting to sign Gentgeen 22:06, 4 Nov 2003 (UTC) -

I've got a start up on my page, User:Gentgeen/Pow-wow (gathering). Gentgeen 23:15, 5 Nov 2003 (UTC)

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If i remeber correctly there was a cartoon called Pow-wows about native american bears. - fonzy

ok looked it up and i was wrng it was the paw paws. but tere was a cartoon called: "The Adventures of Pow Wow" and the cartoon character Pow Wow Wolf. - fonzy

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Ok, I've got the article on Pow-wow gatherings ready to go, but I'd like to get some aggrement on how to split the articles. I propose that the Pow-wow page be about the Native American gatherings and a new page Pow-wow (folk magic) be assigned for the folk magic meaning. My reasons are that I get 76K+ hits on Google for Pow-wow Native American and 98K+ hits for Pow-wow Indian, but only ~ 6,600 hits for Pow-wow folk magic. When I searched just for Pow-wow, 15 of the top 20 hits were for Native American gatherings, 2 were for software programs, one was for a water cooler, one for a bicycle tour company, and one for a school newspaper. Any comments? Gentgeen 08:39, 8 Nov 2003 (UTC)

I agree. Move the current one to Pow-wow (folk magic), and move User:Gentgeen/Pow-wow (gathering) to Pow-wow. You'll need a sysop to delete the redirect after you move Pow-wow. Do you want me to do that now? Angela

OK, I've moved the old file to Pow-wow (folk magic), and am going figuring out which link needs to go where. If you'd like to delete the redirect, please do so. Thanks. Gentgeen 10:01, 8 Nov 2003 (UTC)

Ok, done. I've added the disambiguation parts at the bottom of each page too. I don't think a separate disambiguation page is needed unless Pow-wow (folk magic) is written as well, so maybe that can be done in the future. Angela 10:27, Nov 8, 2003 (UTC)

This might be bad, but I've copied and pasted the discussion from the pow-wow (folk magic) page back here, as all the talk had to do with both pages.

Yes, that makes sense. Great work on the article by the way! Angela 10:51, Nov 8, 2003 (UTC)

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From the Arena director section - "The arena director is responsible for making sure dancers are dancing during the pow-wow and that the drums know what song to sing"

Perhaps it should be ".. and that the drummers know what song to drum" ? --Cfailde 17:14, 2004 Aug 9 (UTC)

It might seem odd, but the common termanology is that drums sing songs. This is easier to understand if you know that drum refers to the entire group of performers as well as the instrument they are playing. The performers in a drum group are sometimes called drummers, but more commonly called singers, as the songs they perform are voice accompanied by fairly simple, rythmic drumming. Perhaps changing drum to drum group would make this more clear in the article. Gentgeen 19:07, 9 Aug 2004 (UTC)

I was unaware of any of that but then this subject and the associated terminology is new to me. Note that this may be the case for other readers of this article. However seeing as this terminology is correct leave it as it is .. I for one am happy to know I live in a world were drums can "sing". --Cfailde 22:07, 2004 Aug 14 (UTC)

Powwow in Iraq

I'm not sure if this should be included somewhere in the article. The U.S. Army organied a powwow in Iraq, with soldiers and marines attending. Many interesting points made by the interviewed personal. [1] (http://192.156.19.109/marinelink/mcn2000.nsf/main5/CC91AA1BF1E4EFDA85256F190037937B?opendocument) Gentgeen 00:16, 2 Oct 2004 (UTC)