Talk:Planetary science

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I have never heard the term "planetology". "Planetary astronomy" or "planetary science" is WAY more common, and I think the page should be moved to one of those with a redirect. --zandperl 20:01, 6 Mar 2004 (UTC)

• I agree; Although "planetology" is used sometimes, "planetary science" is much more common (also considerably more common than "planetary astronomy").--Pharos 05:17, 28 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Planetology → Planetary science

Planetary science is the much more common term.--Pharos 07:51, 28 Jan 2005 (UTC)

• Strong Support. Planetary Science on Google: 536,000 hits.[1] (http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=%22planetary+science%22) Planetology on Google: 77,900 hits. [2] (http://www.google.com/search?num=100&hl=en&lr=&q=%22planetology%22) Also of note...Planetary Scientist on Google: 34,600 hits. [3] (http://www.google.com/search?num=100&hl=en&lr=&q=%22planetary+scientist%22) Planetologist on Google: 3620 hits. [4] (http://www.google.com/search?num=100&hl=en&lr=&q=%22planetologist%22). However, my only reservation is that this article really needs to be expanded. —ExplorerCDT 16:11, 28 Jan 2005 (UTC)
• Insanely Strong Oppose: I see no necessary reason for this. I'm not more inclined to accept "Planetary science" instead of Planetology as I am
  • "Earth science" instead of Geology
  • nor "Life science" instead of Biology
  • nor "Ancient human study" instead of Archaeology
  • nor "Sex science" instead of Sexology
  • nor "Human science" instead of Anthropology
  • nor "Cardiovascular science" instead of Cardiology
  • nor "Small life science" instead of Microbiology
  • nor "Brain science" instead of Neurology
  • nor ... instead of Etymology
  • nor ... instead of Psychology
  • nor ... instead of Dendrochronology
  • nor ... instead of Theology
  • nor ... instead of Seismology
  • nor ... instead of Genealogy
  • nor ... instead of Toxicology
  • nor ... instead of Ophthalmology
  • nor ... instead of Sociology
  • nor ... instead of Epidemiology
  • nor ... instead of Zoology
  • nor ... instead of Myrmecology
  • nor ... instead of Entomology
  • nor ... instead of Oncology
  • nor etc. etc. etc. (do I need to list them ALL?)
• All these fields are named after their proper title! Leave it at Planetology for consistencies sake. Consistent naming of fields is more important than what google says. Cburnett 20:33, 28 Jan 2005 (UTC)
  • "Insane" fair descriptor of opposition. "Planetary science" isn't some sort of cute anglicized term invented to interest kids in the subject; it's what researchers who actually study planets, natural satellites, asteroids and comets call their work. "Planetology" is used by almost noone, one major reason being these researchers don't just study planets. Who are you (or, more to the point, us as Wikipedia) to say these scientists are wrong? Oh, and btw, Earth science is not the same as geology.--Pharos 20:45, 28 Jan 2005 (UTC)
    • Zoologists don't just study zoos either. I don't just think of Planets when i hear "Planetology". I'll add my voice to opposition of this move, as long as the redirect remains.--ZayZayEM 00:45, 29 Jan 2005 (UTC)
      • Zoologists don't study zoos, they study animals, which is what the "zoo" affix means (from Greek zoin).--Pharos 23:31, 29 Jan 2005 (UTC)
      • For that matter, it's zo-ology, not zoo-ology. ADH (t&m) 12:21, Jan 30, 2005 (UTC)

• Comment: I've heard both terms, considering your comments regarding Geology are we sure that they define the same subject? --Neo 20:55, 28 Jan 2005 (UTC)
  • I'm not sure if you are addressing me; I made the point above that they do not (not that it's directly relevant).--Pharos 21:00, 28 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Sorry, I wasn't clear... I meant In a manner analogous to the different meanings between geology and earth science, do the terms planetology and planetary science indicate the same, or different, fields of study? --Neo 00:48, 29 Jan 2005 (UTC)

I think that they mean pretty much the same thing, only that one form is distinctly more common. I also note that the term "comparative planetology", describing an important sub-topic in the field (usually describing differences between actual planets), is a significant proportion of the google hits for "planetology", but there are far fewer hits for "comparative planetary science", probably largely because the former sounds better.--Pharos 23:31, 29 Jan 2005 (UTC)

• Pharos, "insanely strong" is a poke at using "strong" as if the vote counts more than one. Regarding geology: look at Geology as it specifically states "is the science and study of the Earth". Regardless, my point stands that moving this one article makes it break the seemingly consistent naming of fields. Having found a list of ologies, I randomly picked them and looked on wikipedia and they are all under their -ology name. I see no reason (common name not good enough) to break this consistency. This is what redirects are for. Cburnett 21:06, 28 Jan 2005 (UTC)

• I am inclined to support this, largely based on the google results (which, admittedly, is not necessarily the best way to decide such things), however I am willing to yield to the experts. Can anyone claim to be an expert here? Is there a planetologist or a planetary scientist in the house, or does someone know one? -R. fiend 19:32, 29 Jan 2005 (UTC)
• Support. It's not the policy of Wikipedia to use incorrect or (in this case) uncommon terms for the sake of consistency. In reality, English and the real world are inconsistent sometimes. I agree with the policy that says we should support current usage rather than try to force personally favored terms. --Sketchee 23:32, Jan 29, 2005 (UTC)
• Support. Concur with Sketchee. this is an encylopedia, not an experiment in systematic classification. --Tony Sidaway|Talk 00:33, 30 Jan 2005 (UTC)
• Oppose. There is no reason for the move other than Google fetishism. -- Naive cynic 00:51, 30 Jan 2005 (UTC)
  • This is not google fetishism, this is reality fetishism. "Planetary science" is what the great majority of researchers actually working in this field call it, quite independent of google.--Pharos 00:58, 30 Jan 2005 (UTC)
  • Sciencedirect gives 40 published academic articles for "planetology", 383 for "Planetary science". Rd232 08:40, 30 Jan 2005 (UTC)
• Support. Naming conventions no-brainer. Rd232 08:40, 30 Jan 2005 (UTC)
• Support. "Planetology" sounds nicer, but a search Google Scholar (http://scholar.google.com/) and CiteSeer (http://citeseer.ist.psu.edu/) gives the following results: Planetology: 5,480 (Google), 19 (CiteSeer); Planetary science: 39,600 (Google), 82 (CiteSeer). This shows that both are in use, but leaves no doubt as to which is the more common. -- Itai 09:36, 30 Jan 2005 (UTC)
• Support. Where are our librariologists? ADH (t&m) 12:21, Jan 30, 2005 (UTC)
• Support -- ALoan (Talk) 12:59, 30 Jan 2005 (UTC)
• Support. Neutrality^talk 06:35, Jan 31, 2005 (UTC)

Category - move or rename?

Good move - now what about the Category:Planetology? It needs renaming also. I missed the vote, but planetology sounds too much akin to astrology to me :-) -Vsmith 15:58, 2 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Planetary geology

I think that the subject of planetary science should actually be called planetary geology, since it is a type of geology. That name would be more specific, too instead of just a science it would be a type of science (geology). I have also researched planetary geology and found that many sites use that wording. But really, in all honesty, who cares what its called? We all know it is the study of planets and as long as we understand that concept, its name doesnt' really matter all that much.