Talk:Microsoft PowerPoint
From Academic Kids
The adjective powerpointy does not apply only to PowerPoint presentations. It applies to anything where gloss > substance. You are hiding it in here. It is no more part of PowerPoint itself than fontitis is part of Microsoft Word.
Also, the history of the concept of a PPFZ is interesting in itself, and shows corporate culture differences.
Finally, the issue of whether advertising, gloss, persuasion technolgoies, are a problem in themselvse is not going away, and requires more articles not less.
Restore the original article, please. If you feel it's unbalanced, balance it.
But it is not part of a descripton of PowerPoint as such. All there should be here is a link.
- Since powerpointy is only tangentially related to PowerPoint, I agree that an article about it should not be merged with an article about PowerPoint, not even with an article about presentation software. branko
The link to David Beatty leads to a person who died 1936, he can't be identical with the mentioned professor. Who knows more? Ute-s 19:01, 28 Oct 2003 (UTC)
NPOV issues here. The article is decidedly anti-slideshow and in particuar anti-powerpoint. Jeff Anonymous 23:23, 19 Jan 2004 (UTC)
- Ok, fixed (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=Microsoft_PowerPoint&diff=0&oldid=2776480) I think. The criticisms aren't any shorter, but they're all attributed now. And I removed the quote from "Cathy Adams" because Google hardly knows her, and there's no apparent reason to include her opinion and not the opinion of the other sixty squillion college-level computing teachers.
Nice re-write. Much better.
The very worst thing about Powerpoint is that it is such a dreadful distraction. It's really difficult to concentrate properly on what the speaker is actually trying to say when you are constantly being distracted by stupid (or even sensible) images. I think it reduces your "effective IQ" during a lecture by ... oh .. about one-third. Assuming that I'm not the only person to have ever noticed this, has anyone ever done a study to investigate it? Put numbers on it? If not, there is a phD for a psych major there for the taking. ;) Tannin 14:21, 15 Mar 2004 (UTC)
- Will a History major do? I just, uh, "rested my eyes" through a History lecture because I knew the PowerPoint slides were going up on the Web shortly thereafter. The rest of the class were complaining that the slides were going by too fast for them to copy.
- Meanwhile, "Jim Gray" appears to be (http://www.rabble.ca/babble/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=21&t=000634&p=) James Gray, a communications coach in Toronto. Wikipedia's quote can't be backed up on the Web (http://www.google.com/search?q=%22if+you+go+speak+to+a+group+and+have+powerpoint%22), but it may be from the 2003-06-11 Toronto Globe (http://zines.webvalence.com/sites/NextLevelTools/Broadcast.D20030618.html) (the quote was added two months later (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=Microsoft_PowerPoint&diff=1314234&oldid=131075)). EntmootsOfTrolls, is that where you got it from? If so, what makes James Gray important enough to be in this Wikipedia article while the world's other sixty bazillion communications coaches with opinions on PowerPoint are not? -- Mpt 00:26, 17 Mar 2004 (UTC)
- Ok, that quote's been removed, but even with that and my rewrite, the article's still very dodgy. The History section has been copied almost verbatim from an excellent New Yorker article (http://www.physics.ohio-state.edu/~wilkins/group/powerpt.html), and then it jumps straight from PowerPoint 1.0 to talk in depth about PowerPoint XP, and then it makes no mention of PowerPoint 2003. And "David Beatty" still isn't David Beatty. -- Mpt 11:45, 21 Mar 2004 (UTC)
Whats new in PowerPoint 2003 ?
Anyone know how is PP 2003 different from the previous versions ? I could not find any info on the Microsoft website. Jay 16:01, 19 Jan 2005 (UTC)
Projectitis
Does anyone know of any 'cultural impact' stuff on Microsoft Project, in the spirit of Edward Tufte? I'm trying to expand Problems with project management software.
- Mkoval 17:24, 27 Mar 2005 (UTC)
I don't, but if I were cleaning up that article I would rewrite the bullet points as real paragraphs, and I would remove the recommendations section. Rhobite 01:27, Mar 28, 2005 (UTC)
VFD?
Is this just vandalism? If not, then why? Aidan 11:19, Apr 25, 2005 (UTC)
- According to the last edit, it seems it was just vandalism. Aidan 11:20, Apr 25, 2005 (UTC)
