Talk:Lord
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"In the United Kingdom, a lord is a member of the House of Lords."
Is this correct? I think many people have the title "Lord" without sitting in the House of Lords.
S.
- You're right: usage of the style 'Lord' is more complicated, and in fact some lords (dukes, in particular) aren't styled 'Lord'. And of course these days most of the lords no longer have the right to sit in the Lords. There are 'lords of the manor', and they aren't lords, and younger sons of dukes and marquesses called e.g. Lord Peter Wimsey by courtesy, and they aren't lords either. [... Dammit, where is the tilde on my new laptop? Ah, way over there...] Gritchka
- Later: I've rearranged this to put the feudal definition on top, and add a bit more about UK peerage, since it's primary and the religious sense is derived from it. In so doing I've deleted a sentence whose import I'm not clear about:
- With the relative decline of feudal habits, the use of the word "Lord" in religious contexts has apparently lost prestige connotations and intrinsic meaning(s) for many people.
- Well the intrinsic meaning of lord is a feudal patron, and lords spiritual and temporal still have prestige in the UK, as does The Lord in whatever religious context it may be used, so I can't see what the writer was getting at. Add something clearer back if you think you know what it was. Gritchka 13:03 14 Jun 2003 (UTC)
Two questions:
1. If someone is appointed, say, as Lord Chancellor (or Lord President of the Council etc.), can they keep the style "Lord X" after leaving office?
2. Some lords have the style "Lord X of Y". Others don't. What are the rules about that? Can you choose whatever you want?(I know Montgomery was Lord (or Viscount) Montgomery of Alamein - surely that's not where he was from)?
If anyone could add answers to these questions to the article it would be helpful.
DSP
