Talk:List of University of Oxford people
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Can we provide links to the various colleges? -- Zoe
- Do you mean internal links to their articles or external links to their official webpages or both? Whichever way, I think that's a great idea. Please go ahead -- they're all in the University of Oxford article, so you can open it for editing and copy them from there. (Having had the pleasure of gathering them all onto that page, I leave the fun of copying them here to someone else.) -- isis 07:33 Jan 26, 2003 (UTC)
I was hoping somebody who actually knows the colleges and what their Wikipedia names are could handle that. :-) -- Zoe
- How about we find someone who wants to run their edit-count up and let them do it one link at a time? -- isis 07:52 Jan 26, 2003 (UTC)
Are the colleges in brackets only supposed to be those where they were students? I saw that some people were listed with more than one college, and clicked on one at random - Barbara Levick. Her article says that she was a student at St. Hugh's College, Oxford, but a Fellow at St. Hilda's College, Oxford. So should we (a) remove names of colleges where people weren't students, or (b) rename the page to something more general, like List of notable Oxonians or the like? I'll leave it up to you. Oh, and I'll help with the linking when I have a bit more spare time (after my exams...) -- Oliver PEREIRA 08:06 Jan 26, 2003 (UTC)
- I'd rather it be only where they were students, but I'm not absolutely sure a "fellow" isn't a graduate student of sorts (in the U.S., fellows are people on fellowships, and they ARE students), but I'd just as soon take it out, because this is only a list, and once you go to her link you get the other info anyhow. (I do question whether she's all that "notable", however, since I've never heard of her, but that's a different issue.) But the main purpose of the list is for people who are strongly associated with Oxford in history but weren't students there all that long (or seriously), like Lord Alfred Douglas, and if you try changing the name of the list, you'll run into the same problem with having Richard Burton on it that made Deb take it out of the Oxford University article, altho she did not take the corresponding list out of the Cambridge University article. -- isis 08:35 Jan 26, 2003 (UTC)
- I know that at Cambridge, once you've matriculated, you are a member of the university for life, even if you drop out. I don't know if that's the same for Oxford, but I would have thought so, and so people who dropped out would probably still be "Oxonians". But I agree, it keeps things simpler to just restrict it to students. By the way, in UK universities, a Fellow is a member of the academic staff, so they wouldn't be students. -- Oliver PEREIRA 09:05 Jan 26, 2003 (UTC)
- In the U.S. (at least back when I was in grad school), most fellowships required either research or teaching (and carried a salary or "stipend" for it), and teaching fellows were academic staff (but perhaps not faculty), but then much/most teaching of undergraduates was done by graduate students instead of professors. I think you're right that in the U.K. fellows are faculty who hold appointments rather like a "chair" (or professorship) in the U.S., which is for a professor instead of a grad student, so we should probably stay clear of the issue for this list. -- isis 08:26 Jan 29, 2003 (UTC)