Talk:Linda Lovelace
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As this Wikipedia article was the only one with April 23 as date of death, and all other resources I could find said April 22, I assumed a mistake was made and changed the info. -- Eric
Removed non-English version that looks like an copy and paste of a news entry.
I moved the Portuguese text to the appropriate Wiki. I think the preferred name of this article should be the name that people know and expect--which is "Lovelace". We're not here to eulogize, but to report. The title of an article should be whatever is most likely to be linked ad-hoc from other articles, and I don't think "Boreman" is going to come up in other texts. -- Lee Daniel Crocker
What is with all the links in this article? I can see some of them, but "sport-utility vehicle"? It looks like someone is confusing the convention here with perhaps that of another online database. And "April 23"?
By the way, why would not a queen be listed as Queen [name] [Roman numeral]?
Our convention, created after much discussion, is "[Name] [numeral] of [country]", which is about as concise as it's possible to be while still distinguishing adequately among the 40 or so Alberts and Phillips of various European countries. "King" or "Queen" is unnecessary, but for other nobility you do need the title, as "[Name] [numeral], [title] of [place]". We also have a suggested policy of making only those links that are relevant. I rather favor that policy, but many don't. I don't think it's critical enough to be worth actuall removing links unless I happen to be already editing an article for other reasons. --LDC
'The "Linda Lovelace vs. Linda Boreman" naming discussion was moved to wikipedia talk:naming conventions.' Summary: Some felt that out of deference to the wishes of Linda Boreman and her family (amoung other things) the article should be moved to Linda Boreman. Others strongly opposed this per wikipedia:naming conventions that state that articles should be named for what the largest number of English speakers would either know or easily recognize. "Linda Lovelace", a screen name, is by far the most widely known and recognized -- thus the article is where it is.
- Personally, I think that throughout the article itself Boreman, aside from the first mention of the name, should be replaced by Lovelace. The article on John Wayne doesn't refer to him as Marion Morrison, the article on Roy Rogers doesn't refer to him as Leonard Sly. Why should this article be any different? Hayford Peirce 22:18, 9 Aug 2004 (UTC)
- John Wayne liked is made up name. Linda Boreman did not. Keep it as it is. --mav 05:55, 10 Aug 2004 (UTC)
Linda's legacy
It certainly seems that Linda was a victim of considerable physical and sexual abuse, which is indeed beyond tragic. The adult film industry was rife with these practices during the 1970's and has encouraged same throughout America's less-enlightened, less educated areas since then. Still, I can only hope that she took some comfort before passing in two facts: One, Deep Throat will probably always be the greatest adult film of all-time, and a real piece of cinematic history. And two, her abilty to perform fellatio will be a celebrated talent for many years to come. Rest In Peace, Linda.
- Anyone who, 32 years after the debut of Deep Throat, still calls it the greatest adult film of all time has clearly never seen another porn movie. Aside from being the most famous porn movie of all time, it is probably the one thousandth best, if that. And certainly her ability to perform deep throat introduced a new pleasure to the world -- but it has been commonplace in many movies since then. But she will be remembered for that -- just the way Babe Ruth is still remembered today: as a great pioneer in his field. Hayford Peirce 22:18, 9 Aug 2004 (UTC)
- Actually, I read Joe Bob Briggs' book on "shocking movies" today, which included, in the chapter on Deep Throat, a quote from Harry Reems saying that it's not actually that pleasurable an experience. It's impressive to watch, but it doesn't feel particularly wonderful, compared to normal fellatio. DS 04:20, 8 Sep 2004 (UTC)
- I remember reading the same thing several years ago. I haven't received enough deep throating to qualify as an expert critic and appraiser of it, but I'd say off-hand from my fairly limited experience that Harry is correct: it's an OK sensation but nothing that I'd miss if it were never experienced again. On the other hand, a couple of gay friends of mine tell me that they love receiving it. I think that maybe it depends on the skill of the person doing it -- if it can be done in a smooth, continuous motion, back and forth as in regular fellatio, it's probably more enjoyable than when the deep throater has to actively work to cram things in, so to speak, which is probably the case with most people doing it. In any case, it is perhaps an experiment that should be more closely studied under clinically controlled circumstances.... Volunteers, anybody? Hayford Peirce 17:33, 8 Sep 2004 (UTC)