Talk:Imperial Russia
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I'd like someone to find a map of Imperial Russia. I'm sure the territory it covered was huge! --Cogent 03:16, 28 Nov 2004 (UTC)
==Russian Empire or Imperial Russia?-- Why is the title "Imperial Russia" and not the "Russian Empire" like it was listed in the Russian history index originally? It seems to me merely to be the differences in emphasis on the nation and the type. Somebody may one day do a Chinese Empire instead of Imperial China, or the other way around. Consistency, if necessary, would be nice. --Menchi 20:53 10 Jul 2003 (UTC)
- There's a subtle difference between 'Russian Empire' and 'Imperial Russia'. The latter term IMHO emphasizes the fact that this is a phase of history, and that Russia became imperial, whereas China is called an empire throughout most of its history. I also think that the modern sense of 'empire' as 'a nation that rules over others' isn't so strong in the adjectival form. So I think the present form should stay. --Smack 19:34, 30 Jul 2004 (UTC)
- Russian Empire is a literal translation of official country name in 1721-1917. Imperial Russia is a vague term reflecting, in its most vast sense, the period of 1480-1991, when the policy of Russian rulers was imperial. Dr Bug (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=User_talk:Drbug&action=edit§ion=new) (Volodymyr V. Medeiko) 21:35, 30 Jul 2004 (UTC)
I don't think that the Russian hegemony in the USSR can or should be described as "imperial" or as an "empire". Such a terminology seems both pretentious and reminds of McCarthyism. --Joy [shallot] 13:59, 9 Oct 2004 (UTC)
I would prefer this article to be moved back to Russian Empire. "Imperial Russia" is meaningless. And Soviet Union, although being sometimes named "Soviet Empire", never was named "Russian Empire". — Monedula 16:32, 9 Oct 2004 (UTC)
Map, Coat of Arms?
Crossposted from Wikipedia_talk:Wikiportal/Russia:
Imperial Russia is a navigational article that refers to four articles that correspond to four periods of the Russian History between the end of 17th and beginning of the 20th century. Each of these articles is very good and I don't think it is a good idea to try to move the info from them back to Imperial Russia article. These historic articles are in a great shape, especially if compared to many important ru-related topics. -Irpen 02:48, Jun 6, 2005 (UTC)
- I still think what Imperial Russia article can be improved a lot...there is no map, no coat of arms etc., nothing comparable to articles on Ottoman, German or Austro-Hungarian empires. (Fisenko 02:52, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC))
- Agreed, let's just make sure that we don't mean moving the text on history from one of four narrower articles. Irpen 03:09, Jun 6, 2005 (UTC)
