Talk:Goalkeeper
From Academic Kids
I removed the reference to the goal area as there are no provisions in the FIFA rules forcing players to leave the area, its only purpose is to define the area within which a goal kick is taken. Removed the reference to "two hands on the ball" which is also not mentioned, possession of the ball is defined in law 12 decision 2 of the FIFA rules. These rules are available here
http://images.fifa.com/fifa/handbook/laws/2003/LOTG2003_e.pdf
Bob Palin 18:04, 18 Jan 2004 (UTC)
Where in the Laws of Football does it say that the goalkeeper can not be challenged at all when he has possession of the ball?
--DaveB 06:59, 25 Apr 2004 (UTC)
- It's an indirect free kick offence to "prevent to goalkeeper from releasing the ball from his hands" (Law 12), but that's not quite the same thing. I suppose if you try and kick the ball from his hands, that would be dangerous play. Didn't somebody head the ball from a keeper's hands recently? sjorford 08:13, 25 Apr 2004 (UTC)
As I understand, the goalkeeper can not be challenged if he has the ball in both hands. However the goalkeeper can not hold the ball for more than six seconds. SimonMayer 10:49, 25 Apr 2004 (UTC)
It is correct that it is an offence to prevent the keeper from releasing the ball. Kicking the ball from the goalkeepers hands is indeed dangerous play, and yes there was an incident a number of years ago in which an attacker headed the ball when the keeper was holding it with one hand (this case is often brought up in referee exams!). If the keeper is holding the ball in one hand, he has control of the ball; heading the ball out of his hands (legal) is a challenge :-)
The current (post-1996ish rewrite) text of the laws does not make mention of the keeper being exempt from being challenged when holding the ball (whether two hands or not), and the old (pre-1996ish rewrite) text of the Laws/Q+A/IFAB-Decisions implied that the keeper could be challenged in some way. Other than the prohibition on preventing the keeper from releasing the ball, the Laws do not explicitly differentiate between play when the keeper has control of the ball and when he does not. Most "restrictions" on contesting the keep are just aspects of the normal dangerous play rules in Law 12.
This may all seem pedantic, but there are enough minor myths regarding the Laws floating around, so we should look to keep the facts straight.
"Netminder"
I notice "netminder" has been added as an alternative term for goalkeeper in some sports. Could someone please tell me which major sports use this as a formal term? If not we should remove it (we don't want lists of informal terms blowing out). --Daveb 07:20, 5 May 2005 (UTC)
