Talk:Francis Bacon
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Birthday
His birthday is given as January 22 (not 21) in Wikipdia for January 22.
- I don't know who added the unsigned comment above, but I just found the same thing myself - in fact every non-Wikipedia source I can find says January 22, so I've changed it. Andrewa 14:16, 5 Aug 2004 (UTC)
Language in 1593 subsidy text?
I don't understand the following sentence:
- The House of Commons duly information on state necessities, assented to a double subsidy and appointed a committee to draw up the requisite articles.
The phrase "duly information on state necessities" doesn't seem to be grammatical. If "duly" is an adverb, there should be a verb in the clause, and it should probably be set off by commas (e.g., "duly informed on state necessities"). If the whole expression (including "The House of Commons") is a committee title, something still seems wrong (at least to my American eyes). I don't know the history, so I can't fix it. Could someone look at this? -- Jeff Q 09:01, 9 May 2004 (UTC)
Schaff-Herzog Encyclopedia
The incredibly long encyclopedia entry added to this Talk page doesn't really serve the purpose of a Talk page, does it? Shouldn't it be moved to Wikisource? -- Jeff Q 09:01, 9 May 2004 (UTC)
- Well it looks like User:Mackensen has removed the text now. At first I couldn't see the point of just deleting potentially useful information and considered restoring it to a subpage here. On the other hand we don't keep text dumps of the 1911 Britannica lieing around, just in case someone wants to use it. Perhaps the best solution is to give the link to the source here;
- For additional PD source material on Francis Bacon, see Schaff-Herzog Encyclopedia (1911) (http://www.ccel.org/s/schaff/encyc/encyc01/htm/iii.ix.vii.htm)
- Or seeing as how some of the material has been used, the link could be put into the References section of the main page. -- Solipsist 08:04, 15 Jan 2005 (UTC)
Best known for scientific revolution?
If Francis Bacon "has become best known as an advocate and defender of the scientific revolution", shouldn't there be something more in this very lengthy article about his contributions, rather than just this tiny statement? If I knew them myself, I'd add some text, but I'm in learning mode on this topic. ☺ -- Jeff Q 09:21, 9 May 2004 (UTC)
- Oops! I spent so much time reading about Bacon's life, I forgot there was another paragraph (well, sentence, really) at the top that had a link to the Baconian method. I grudgingly concede that this serves the purpose I was after. ☺ -- Jeff Q 09:27, 9 May 2004 (UTC)
"Page here appears to have been missed in the scanning" note (and cleanup)
I'm not sure what this refers to, unless it's to text that was somehow lost from the 1911 Britannica (although not much in the text as it stands appears to match the 1911 sentence for sentence). Nevertheless, in my research, I didn't see many details in the philosopher's life that were left out in this mysterious "missing" section, so I filled in what I could find about the years 1600-1603 (a couple of sentences, at most), and I removed the "page here appears to have been missed in the scanning" note. ffirehorse 05:55, 8 Sep 2004 (UTC)
Listing on cleanup
I'm listing this on cleanup because the article seems to have a tone and focus problem. In addition to concentrating from his political life, copied from the 1911 encyclopedia, it has a few bizarre statements under "rumors" which are ambiguous and unencyclopedic in tone. Cool Hand Luke 06:45, 27 Sep 2004 (UTC)
Removed Rosicrucian links
I removed the following links, mainly because they have little to do with the actual person Francis Bacon.
- Bacon's "Secret Society": The Ephrata Connection (http://geocities.com/Athens/Acropolis/2216/Ephrata_Presentation/)
- Bacon's hidden life and works (http://www.fbrt.org.uk)
- Painting by Barbara Gaffney showing Bacon as the Imperator of the Rosicrucian Order (http://www.sirbacon.org/links/gaffney.htm)
PRiis 20:57, 16 Feb 2005 (UTC)
Interlanguage links are fixed
- Halló! See GlobalWPSearch Francis Bacon (http://vs.aka-online.de/cgi-bin/globalwpsearch.pl?timeout=30&minor=1&search=Francis_Bacon) by de:Benutzer:Aka and Wikipedia:Template:Interwikiconflict.
- I like this: "Little or nothing is known of their married life: modern scholars speculate that he may have been a homosexual. — Others reserve that he had been a Negro." — Maybe this is also a speculation. At least it is an opinion
Best regards Gangleri | Th (http://academickids.com/encyclopedia/index.php?title=User_talk:Gangleri&action=history) | T 00:21, 2005 Apr 15 (UTC)
Did Bacon write Shakespeare's plays?
Possibly, and possibly not. It is a legitimate question, but any discussion here should largely move a reader to read the more rounded discussion at Shakespearean authorship.
Recently an anon author has twice introduced a paragaph [1] (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Francis_Bacon&diff=12766252&oldid=12763215) to discuss the question which has a number of problems.
- ) Firstly it is too POV in favour of Bacon being a likely author when there are several other candidates.
- ) It uses weasel words such as 'Some have theorised', rather than attributing the theory to known authors.
- ) It contains statements of fact that are incorrect. The phrase the first word of the manuscript of The Tempest (Boteswaine) has Francis Bacon's name around the B contains at least three errors. There is no known manuscript of The Tempest, the statement should refer to the printed text of the first folio edition. 'Boteswaine' is not the first word of The Tempest, it is the first spoken word. Bacon's name is not written around the initial capital 'B', at least not in clear text as is implied. It is possible to say that the name is encoded in a complex cipher involving the letter near the opening capital B. See http://home.att.net/~tleary/bote.htm which looks like a more credible source and includes a scan of the First Folio text.
- ) It pushes a link to sirbacon.org, when this is far from the most useful web site on the question. A more balanced collection of links is presented in Shakespearean authorship article.
It looks like there is a fair amount of dispute on the Shakespearean authorship page, but I don't think we need that POV war to spill over here. -- Solipsist 22:51, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Scientific method
Some material has been added to the History section if the scientific method article concerning Bacon. If someone here has a chance to look over it I would be gateful. Chris 08:04, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
