Talk:Flags of the Confederate States of America

From Academic Kids

There is no support or references given here by whoever made these comments (probably a yankee) about the validity of the Confederate Flag, especially the one commonly accepted by the true Confederates and their descendants. Most of these Flags were never seen by or displayed by true Confederates, except the latter, and we certainly were not on ships. Its amazing how many ship flags were found in Southerners attics... -- 12.36.152.153 (moved from article page to here by John Owens (talk) 03:22, 2004 Jul 9 (UTC)

Also, that "bonnie blue" flag didn't symbolize The Confederacy as a whole, but the independent states before they united. The logic was that if 20 or so stars symbolized 20 or so states united, then one star symbolized one star staning alone.

I'm from Georgia and I've never heard of that last flag being used as a naval flag. I have no idea why someone would think that...

What was originally designed The Naval Jack was used at times on land such as by the army of Tennessee. There were in fact many local/regiment battle flags in addition to the general square saltire version. The popularity of the saltire flag being used almost exclusively by veteren groups started as far back as the 1880s in preference to what were seen as either "political" or local flags. Almost inevitably to be consistent with most other flags, there was a preference established for a rectangular version and it is no wonder that more flags of this type are now found in attics. However, to suggest the wide use of the flag civicly and among land based forces at the time of the civil war is somewhat anachronistic and it remains historically correct to refer to it as a naval jack. Dainamo 11:46, 11 Dec 2004 (UTC)

South Carolina flag

Just to explain, I cut South Carolina from the controversy section because the issue with SC wasn't that the state flag was changed during the 1960s but that the government started flying the Confederate banner alongside the U.S. national and SC state flags above the statehouse. The NAACP (and other) boycott persuaded the state to move the flag from above the statehouse; the Palmetto banner was not redesigned in 2000.

The removed text in question:

South Carolina incorporated the Confederate Battle Flag into the state flag in 1962. Due to a boycott by the NAACP and related organizations, the state legislature chose to redesign the flag in 2000.

Carter 16:42, 4 Nov 2004 (UTC)

That is strange! Everything I read seriously implied (or outright stated) that the SC flag had a Confederate emblem. This must be a fairly widespread misconception. Either that, or the media is just trying to create more controversy than the issue merits. Here is an article from 7 Nov 2004: Kentucky Lexington-Herald Leader (http://www.kentucky.com/mld/kentucky/sports/colleges/university_of_kentucky/10120199.htm) A quote from the article: "The NCAA does not allow schools in states that have Confederate symbols on their flags -- only Mississippi and South Carolina -- to host events..." I was fooled! Odd indeed. --L.D. Bear 01:39, 9 Nov 2004 (UTC)

I think I can explain this. In recent years, some entities have created a flag that blends the CSA Naval Jack and the SC/NC flags. See here for a picture: [1] (http://www.fotw.us/images/u/us-sccsa.gif) and [2] (http://www.fotw.us/images/u/us-nccsa.gif). These flags are unofficial and has no connection with the NC/SC Governments. For more, see FOTW (http://www.fotw.us/flags/us-sc.html#sccsa). If you really want one, [3] (http://rebelstore.com/) has plenty of products with the flags on them. - Hoshie/Crat 05:38, 24 Mar 2005 (UTC)