Talk:Fanboy
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Is this grammar rule correct? A comma before "and" or "or"? Rmhermen 02:51 7 Jun 2003 (UTC)
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Videogame Fanboys
The paragraph on videogame fanboys (i.e., "...a fanboy is someone who appreciates a certain game almost exclusively because of its story...") is interesting. I haven't heard that restricted usage before. Can anyone point to an example of that usage of the term fanboy, or talk about how they or someone they know use the term in that way? Vadder 01:24, 11 Jul 2004 (UTC)
- I removed this fragment (text below). It is interesting (if true), but without at least some justification it should not be included.
- In video games, especially in fighting games, a fanboy is someone who appreciates a certain game almost exclusively because of its story and would tend to support those things that would improve the story, even at the expense of good gameplay.
- Feel free to readd back with the explanation of where/by whom it is used. Paranoid 22:39, 3 Aug 2004 (UTC)
I am the one who inserted that paragraph. The term "fanboy" as described that scentence is used in this way in the forms of http://www.shoryuken.com (the leading competative fighting game website), and in the many reviews and forum posts of people on (http://www.gamefaqs.com) especially in regards to the game king of fighters.
XBOX Fanboys
There's a large XBOX Fanboys community increasing since 2003. Maybe because Sony console was obsolet in short time.
- In other words, because there's a segment of American gamers that worships stat sheets and is less interested in actual games.
- A demonstration- what a good idea! Rhobite 02:00, Feb 18, 2005 (UTC)
Use of the term
A little justification for the paragraph in the article. Googling for combinations shows that there are plenty of Microsoft fanboys, Linux fanboys, PS2 fanboys, but no Rolex fanboys, and only a few Bush fanboys or Disney fanboys. There are also few fanboys for music (such as Beatles fanboys). Paranoid 22:55, 3 Aug 2004 (UTC)
Defensive mode
Just an example of Doom3 fanboyism (very widespread behaviour, because D3 is not as graphically superious as we were led to believe):
- Ok stop comparing this game to crappy far cry. Far Cry sucked. It had really bad coding. Besides that dues ex2 and far cry are nothing compared to the technology in doom 3. Doom 3 has a amazing engine. So you should uograde. [1] (http://www.forumplanet.com/planetdoom/topic.asp?fid=5733&tid=1436237)
Paranoid 22:55, 3 Aug 2004 (UTC)
Rewrite
I hate to be negative, but this article needs a rewrite. It's currently an opinionated essay - little can be saved. Examples of problems:
- "Sycophantic devotion", short attention span. Who says?
- "Since the term is primarily derogatory, most people do not understand why a person is labeled a fanboy." doesn't make sense
- Fanboy vs. criticism para - speculation
- Fangirl behavior - speculation
- "In reality most fanboys..." - speculation
A couple parts which could stay:
- Mentions of comic-book guy and Kevin Smith movies are good examples
- The murder thing is OK but needs to be NPOV
Rhobite 23:53, Feb 12, 2005 (UTC)
Rewrite?
Having had nothing to do with this article till now when I looked it up for myself, I hope I can be considered fairly unbiased. It seems to be pretty obvious that a term meant to be derogatory MUST have non-neutral statements in it's definition. Of course it's going to be opinionated. I'd like to see someone write a neutral article on the term "weak minded relativist hippie" without mentioning the negative loading of the term.
Maybe one can try to be better about saying up front that it is an epithet meant to imply so and so, but let's not get carried away with the NPOV stuff here. An article explicity about a biased POV must contain a biased POV, no? Having said that, I do agree with the above comment in terms of the speculative issues.
Origin of the term
I've been researching, and I have yet to find the first use of the term. The earliest I can find is a 1995 episode of Freakazoid.
Rewrite
I've done a rewrite on the article, editing for objectivity, relavance, and conciseness. I feel, however, that it is not complete because of my own involvement in many activities that would label me a fanboy. Please review for objectivity, then remove rewrite stamp. --Revpfil 01:05, 13 Mar 2005 (UTC)
-note: "weak minded relativist hippie" - a disparaging term used to imply a person holds non-confrontational, non-comformist, or environmenatlist views solely because of the influnce of media or activist groups.
- No need to rewrite, the article is based on real experience and facts. --Mateusc 03:16, 18 Mar 2005 (UTC)
- We try not to base articles here on personal experience, but I agree that it's much better than before. It did need a rewrite, and someone was nice enough to rewrite it. Rhobite 05:04, Mar 18, 2005 (UTC)
- Does not have nothing excessively with the article. I assume that you has been offended with stereotypes, saw youself portraied in them. It's simple: Fanboism is negative behavior and you don't need much time to see and to evidence they are inapt socially people and extremely aggressive in the anonymity. I consider that must add links for illnesses as social phobia, because the Fanboys almost all have it. Maybe expand the article explaining about new generation of cowards in the Internet making intense use of anonymity. Mateusc 22:34, 18 Mar 2005 (UTC)
- We try not to base articles here on personal experience, but I agree that it's much better than before. It did need a rewrite, and someone was nice enough to rewrite it. Rhobite 05:04, Mar 18, 2005 (UTC)
- You're welcome to try to improve the article further, but please read the Wikipedia:No original research policy first. It is not appropriate to add personal observations to an article. Also, please watch the personal attacks. This is not a debate forum, nor is it a place to start a flamewar. Rhobite 22:52, Mar 18, 2005 (UTC)
Categories?
I think the article could use a few categories such as "video game fanboys", "comic book fanboys", "movie fanboys" (i.e. Star Wars, etc), with examples of each. Different groups of fanboys have unique behavior.
Also, what would one call a person who obsesses over a video game series for its storyline and ignores gameplay, preferring only to add to the story at the expense of gameplay? There currently is no known term for such, and "fanboy" may not be the correct term. Yet, people who feel that way typically are very obsessive and defensive over their interests, taking the idea that their favorite video game series was designed to be fun to play rather than to be a story, as a personal insult. So "fanboy" could describe them.
I think categories of different froms of fanboy behavior and/or interests could flesh this article out more. There is much variety to be found in the world of fanboys.
- CGally81
Music Fanboiism
Something very missing from this, in my opinion, is the music fanboi. Someone who over idolises one band, can't take criticism of them, and goes as far as to dress and act like them. Amongst people I know, the term is rarely used for anything else these days, just fans of certain bands - Linkin Park and Korn in particular. Kiand 13:56, 8 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Fanboy Vandal
Yes, Fanboys are vandals in Wikipedia too. [2] (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=PlayStation_3&oldid=12304067) [3] (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=PlayStation_3&oldid=12304132) [4] (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=PlayStation_3&oldid=12307214) [5] (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Xbox_Next&oldid=12303480) --Mateusc 00:29, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
lol @ category
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