Talk:Epcot
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Disney has officially renamed EPCOT to Epcot. It seems, then, that this article should redirect to Epcot and not vice versa. Opinions on this? If I don't get any, I'll just move it myself. -- Benjamin Esham
The fact that the organization currently known as the "Disney Corporation" wishes to change the name of EPCOT doesn't alter the fact that EPCOT was originally named by the individual Walt Disney. If the "Disney Corporation" wanted to change the name of "Mickey Mouse" to "Rodney the Pedophile", that wouldn't alter the fact that "Mickey Mouse" had existed.
It's a generally sound principle that things should be at their current name, with a mention of past names. So, yeah, if they did, the page would be moved to "Rodney the Pedophile" with a mention of the former name. -- Tarquin
- Reasonable, but you assume that the corporation has the right to change the name just because they have ownership. Back when the Coca-Cola company owned Santa Clause, they could have "proclaimed" that his name was henceforth "Old Man Cola", but that wouldn't have diminished who Santa Claus was.
- You can't fool me, there ain't no Sanity Clause.
- All this now and then stuff seems a bit off the point to me - you name articles after what they are most usually called by English speakers in the present day. If Disney were to rename "Mickey Mouse" "Rodney the Pedophile", people would, I suspect, continue to call him "Mickey Mouse," just like Santa is probably going to remain Santa in the forseeable future, come what may. So the question is, what do people most usually call EPCOT? A Google search suggests that "Epcot" is considerably more common than the all-capitals version, so the article should go there, in my opinion. --Camembert
- OK, moved content to Epcot and added a REDIRECT. -- Benjamin Esham
Wasn't there an attraction there that featured Michael Jackson and was subsequently pulled after his molestation trial? I think this would be an interesting and pertinent addition to the entry assuming that I'm remembering correctly and that someone knows the details.David de Paoli
- You're thinking of Captain EO, but of course Michael Jackson was never placed on trial for molestation. Epcot has lots of features that have disappeared and been replaced by others so I don't think this really rates a mention unless you're going to compile a list of them. Someone else
- LOL- right. I just have a morbid curiosty watching MJ's travails.
- And the Ride was, IIRC, replaced before the incident anyways, by the Honey I shrunk the kids feature.
Redirected EPCOT Centee to this page, here is old content of that page.
EPCOT Center is the original name of the Walt Disney World theme park Epcot.
The word EPCOT itself is an acronym for "Experimental Prototype Community of Tomarrow." It was created by Walt Disney in his plans for a self contained and regulated community featuring a circular shape. It featured belts offering living space and work areas extending from the central region.
After Walt's death, his ideas were adapted by Imagineers into EPCOT Center. The theme park was meant to be the "center" of the never-realized utopia. It is located in the center of the Walt Disney World property.
In recent years, EPCOT Center/Epcot has undergone many changes and the label of a utopian society center no longer applies. Disney officially opted to change the name of theme park to Epcot to better reflect its current state.
Several changes were made in the transition from EPCOT Center to Epcot as it is now. While many attractions were merely alter and others added in unoccupied spaces, some became extinct. These attractions include:
- World of Motion - Replaced by Test Track in the same building.
- Horizons - Building demolished. Mission: SPACE opens on the site in 2003.
- Kitchen Kaberet - Replaced by Food Rocks in the same theater.
Okay.. so.. Epcot is not EPCOT Center and the two are very different.. or, one has evolved from the other. Apparently the original writers of the articles barely knew squat about the place other than what a travel brochure said - and didn't even relay the full information of that. The information needs a home. Redirecting from EPCOT Center to EPCOT to Epcot defeats the purpose.. And by the way, I stuck in "See Epcot CENTER" as a new article so if you want to redirect blatantly how about deleting the leading link from the article you're sending back to?
The balkanization was unnecessary. Mintguy
A thought.. why not a "Epcot History" section or something as part of the original Epcot article?
- Precisely Mintguy
What did Two Halves delete exactly...?
- Oy the page changed while i was typing...
- I messed up and edited and old version, fixed now. Mintguy
I deleted the paragraph that basically stated that Celebration's master plan was directly influenced by epcot. This is not true. Celebration was much more influenced by new urbanist planning schemes and by the Walt Disney Corporation's desire to muscle in on land development, than by anything represented by epcot (before or after Walt took the deep freeze, I may add). Celebration, IMHO, has more similarities with Seaside, Florida (where The Truman Show was filmed) than epcot.
- when you say "epcot" do you mean Epcot, EPCOT or EPCOT Center?
- Any of the three would apply. Two Halves
Added the connection to Celebration, FL back in. You are correct that Celberation's master plan is nothing like Disney's original vision, but there is still a link that needs to be mentioned. Most every newspaper article about Celebration mentions Walt Disney's original dream.
I might agree that most every newspaper article contains reference to Walt Disney's intention to build a new town. But Walt's idea was so very different in style from Celebration. (EPCOT was like Tomorrowland, except one could live there.) Also, I do not remember removing that link, but I can live with the epcot article containing it. --Two Halves
In the World Showcase section, there's a sentence which lists countries not represented because they didn't want to pay for the operation. It seems to me that Africa is not a country. Should we go with "various African nations", or does anyone know a specific list? Ventura 23:20, 2004 Aug 4 (UTC)
== EPCOT is AMAZING. Everything I know about I am definitely going to tell my mom and dad and family ==--Jahs133 12:40, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)