Talk:Carnivore
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Umm. This page is very confusing. It speaks of "true carnivores" but doesn't define what a true carnivore is, compared to, say, all the other carnivores. Are dogs true carnivores? They aren't listed in the (very short) list of "true carnivores." So confusing. PhiloVivero 03:56, 8 Nov 2004 (UTC)
Carnivore and Echelon are both highly controvercial issues. Civil Rights groups, government watchdogs, and Free-speech advocates are up in arms. (and in my opinion; rightly so) Hhowever, in the spirit of Wiki Let us try to be as unemotional and factual as possible...
--DigitalSorceress
I agree, but perhaps some more detail could be gone into as to why they are controversial. --user:Daniel C. Boyer
- I think Echelon is better on this. --user:Daniel C. Boyer
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Carnivore
The External link to the Cryptome page on Carnivore, http://cryptome.org/carnivore-rf.htm, seems dead. But I'm still wary of touching a page here.
Claude Almansi
Spooks and the FBI
shouldn't the e-mail tapping project have its own page seperate from the delapidated ecology term??
The project soudns interesting an dall, but its placing just seems confusing to me.(I winge too much) --ZZ 13:46, 20 Sep 2004 (UTC)
Dogs
Domestic dogs are not carnivores. What about wild dogs - such as wolves, hyenas and dingoes, are their diets solely carnivorous?--ZayZayEM 02:23, 5 Dec 2004 (UTC)
- Classification of animals by diet is tricky, ZayZayEM, even misleading. This order has only been called so because most of these animals are carnivorous and because their jaws and teeth are especially adapted to devouring animals, and their digestive canal is short. Indeed domestic dogs eat almost anything you give them, but that doesn't change their carnivorous nature. I'll tell you something, my parents have a cat that fancies eating cumcumber skins! Yet all cats are carnivorous. Caesarion 19:04, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Baleen whales
Are not some baleen whales (e.g. blue whales) carnivores also? I would agree that they are not really predators, but they eat primarily krill, which are undoubtably animals.
Some people might argue that carnivores eat specificly meat, and not animals in general, but the definition of meat varies from culture to culture (sometimes mostly religous). Perhaps this ambiguity should be noted.
Now I realise that we could list a ream of carnivores that aren't mentioned, but mentioning toothed whales suggests that baleen whales definitely aren't. A much shorter (and therefore clearly incomplete(?)) list might be better, or no list at all. Maybe a list of 'famous' carnivores, e.g. lion, tiger, shark, eagle, etc.
--DavidEdwards 02:03, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
