Talk:Caerleon
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Owain, why are you deleting things without giving a reason? I fail to understand your overwhelming desire to add a reference to Monmouthshire. As Caerleon has more recently been included in Gwent it is more logical to note this than an even older county. My solution: skip the information about past counties. There are more useful things that could be said in an encyclopaedia entry.
- What's the point in a reference to a defunct administrative area? Traditional counties continue to exist as geographical references, which are quite handy when you're explaining where a place is. See Traditional counties of Wales Owain 13:05, 1 Jun 2004 (UTC)
- Gwent is also a traditional county, and is just as much a geographical reference as Monmouthsire. It also has the advantage of not being confused with a current area with the same name. By the way, referencing something you yourself wrote hardly backs up your argument. For a better reference try googling for Caerleon + Gwent and Caerleon + Monmouthshire - you get slightly more hits for the former, which I think is a good indication of where people think it is. Why not leave both out? It's not as if it is unclear where its position is. Rls 00:50, 2 Jun 2004 (UTC)
- I'm afraid Gwent is NOT a traditional county. That phrase has a specific meaning - i.e. the county names and boundaries that exist separately of local government administrative counties. I didn't write the page on traditional counties myself, I've just contributed to it! How is Gwent a geographical reference? The defunct local government area was totally different to the original Early British Kingdom of the same name. As for the Google search, you must know that they are the least scientific way to prove anything. Where people think they are is largely influenced by the Royal Mail's bizarre Postal counties of Great Britain, which they've thankfully got rid of. By all means leave it out, but realise the difference between traditional counties and former administrative areas. Owain 11:51, 2 Jun 2004 (UTC)
