Talk:Azuki bean
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Japanese or Chinese?
Although the red bean is called "Japanese" here, is it not ultimately of Chinese origin? Red bean paste, much the same as the japanese azuki, is basically the same thing, and probably came first. I'm not 100% sure here, as I'm relying a lot on my knowledge as one of chinese ancestry, yet living in japan. A cursory google search does seem to agree, however. I'll probably make more significant changes here when I am more certain. More information on this web site about the red bean: http://www.e2121.com//food_db//viewherb.php3?viewid=350 Lenny-au
Wierd
It is weird that the article mentions Anpanman when there's no mention of anpan.
Name
Shouldn't this page really be "Red Bean (Paste)", as opposed to azuki? Azuki might suffice as an alternate listing, but I would think that this item is more commonly known as "Red Bean Paste" in the English-speaking world. Not sure how to move an entry, so perhaps someone else could do so? Lenny-au
- A(d)zuki is the common English name of the bean, and this article is fundamentally about the plant. Red bean paste might be a worthwhile topic of its own, but the article's not that long yet. Jpatokal 15:14, 10 Dec 2004 (UTC)
Japanese names
- Moved from 163.139.215.193
I have reverted your changes to Azuki bean because I couldn't understand your reasons. If you would like, we can discuss this in more depth. Thank you. — Pekinensis 00:23, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- "Azuki" is a native Japanese word, not a loanword from Chinese. Nobody knows where the name "azuki" comes from. There are a few theories about its name origin but none of them says it means "small bean". Azuki is also called "shozu", which is a loan word from Chinese that means "small bean". Many Japanese people write "shozu" in kanji (小豆) and pronounce it as "azuki". Azuki does not mean small bean. 小豆 means small bean. --163.139.215.193 16:06, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Now I understand. I think we should put this information into the article. How about this:
Also, do you mind if we move this conversation to the article talk page? It was my mistake to start it here rather than there.
— Pekinensis 16:18, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- That is great. I agree that we should move. --163.139.215.193 15:03, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Done. Thank you for the information. — Pekinensis 18:53, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)