Talk:Azores

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1 Population 2 naming conventions 3 Islands/Archipelago 4 Highest Mountain? 5 Azorean Talk 6 Map? 7 Map? 8 (pre?) history

Population

Surely there must be a population on these islands worth mentioning? --rmhermen

• • Yes, there is, I know plenty of them, I'll edit something about them, But they are normal Portuguese people, their most pecculiar difference is their french-like accent. --Pedro 23:56, 23 May 2004 (UTC)

naming conventions

I'm still trying to understand naming conventions: Why isn't this "Azore Islands," please? -- isis

In naming conventions, an important rule is to use the most common name. Determining this is usually easy: look at another encyclopedia, dictionary or map. Alternatively, one can enter the two terms in Google (http://www.google.com) and see which pops up most frequently. In this case "Azores" gives me about 240,000 hits, "Azore Islands" only a few hundred. Jeronimo

Thanks. -- isis

• • • That because we in Portugal we say only "Açores", "Madeira" or somethings else, its easier. than saying "arquipélago dos Açores".... -Pedro 23:56, 23 May 2004 (UTC)

Islands/Archipelago

Why not change the part which reads "The Azores are a group of Portuguese islands" to "The Azores is a Portuguese Archipelago", adding a link to wikipedia's archipelago entry?

• Hmmm? Because English speakers use the word "islands" more than archipelago. They say "Azores Islands", "Canary Islands", etc. We use more the word archipelago, but this is the English wikipedia. You can link archipelago with islands [[archipelago|islands]] . -Pedro 13:30, 9 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Highest Mountain?

"The mountain of Pico on Pico Island at 2,351 m in altitude, is the highest in all of Portugal. The Azores are actually the tops of the tallest mountains on the planet as measured from their base at the bottom of the ocean. The islands are an autonomous region of Portugal."

I thought this honor was held by Mauna Loa / Mauna Kea on Hawaii. from University of North Dakota (http://volcano.und.edu/vwdocs/volc_images/north_america/hawaii/mauna_loa.html): "Mauna Loa is the largest volcano on Earth with an estimated volume of 9,600 cubic miles (40,000 cubic kilometers)." - it's also taller at 4,170m. --198.3.8.1 16:17, 25 May 2005 (UTC)

Azorean Talk

How about a section of the azorean "dialect". The portuguese variations that the azoreans have. - M.Cartello

it is not a "dialect" its just a accent. the accent is different in each of the nine islands, the one mainland portuguese usually associate with azoreans is just in sao miguel island, the other islands have accents similar to mainland portuguese. if a section about the azorean accents would to be created, then why isnt there any sections (in their related articles) about porto accent, alentejo accent, lisbon accent, madeira accent and algarve accent? - --Cyprus2k1 09:09, 12 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Why not include it? There is no requirement that more developed articles include this first. I don't speak portuguese, but I think a Sao Miguel (where I've been) accent/dialect would be worth mentioning. ✏ Sverdrup 15:11, 12 Dec 2004 (UTC)

That's why i said "portuguese variation". Okay how about a section of Azorean Portuguese aka "O Micaelense". - M.Cartello

• Hi. Yesterday, a a TV show in a national youth cable channel an Azorean called in, and the presenter a Northern Portuguese couldnt understand the accent, and started laughing, cause he really couldnt understand almost nothing, because of the strong voice and french-like vowels. For southern Portuguese especially people from the Algarve it could be easier for them to understand, because the dialect is related. Most of the settlers where from the Algarve and surprise, the french like accent possibly comes from early French settlers. Though in the Portuguese mind, considering an accent has a dialect is already to much, even if many linguists consider a dialect and accent the same. But we can't consider the term that dialect has sometimes. Azorean is really just an odd accent, you just need to get use to it. There isnt any differenciation. IMO, this accent (from São Miguel island) is the most hard to understand from all the accents from every country that I know - at least for me. But, I have also difficulty in understanding a strong accent from Faial Island. From the rest, no, even if they all share many similarities. You should remember, there is nothing different in it, even if strong Azorean accent is not understood by some people, that doesnt mean nothing cause all the structure, lexicon, etc is the same. There are grammatical and use of different diphtongs ('ou' and 'oi'/ô) between Southern and Northern Portuguese (even if there is no difficulty in understanding), but with Azoreans I dont know any such differences. If they ease their pronunciation they would be perfectly understood - what is very common these days. Or, continental living in the Azores also have no difficulty. Though I would need Internet references to start writing (I dont know any even in Portuguese), cause these things move on with pride (I remember one with an ignorant in another article about another accent) and, for this one, I dont really have much backup. More, in any other regions even countries in wikipedia there arent references to accents. We should always remember, everyone has their own dialect, that share common features with your family, neighbours, etc. So I think that is nothing special to be mentioned, especially in a Enclyclopedia in English. In real life it is special, because it characterizes one. Yes, I'm going out with too many linguists and these are my two cents. -Pedro 01:12, 8 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Map?

Can somebody add a map showing where the Azores are situated in the Atlantic?

Map?

Can somebody add a map showing where the Azores are situated in the Atlantic? --Orang55 05:08, 30 Dec 2004 (UTC)

(pre?) history

Does anyone have anything to say about the islands before 1427? They didn't just spring out of the ocean at that point, I suspect.... -FZ 16:23, 28 Jan 2005 (UTC)

• Are you talking about the vulcanic origin or the artifact found in the islands? There is an interesting story about pottery in the Island, some centuries ago, and I think that pottery is lost, and some people think it is related to Atlantis (me, LOL). Hugs - Pedro 01:15, 8 Feb 2005 (UTC)